<Keck NGAO Team Meeting #4>

8:00a - 5:30p (Hawaii Standard Time)
Monday, January 22, 2007
Hualalai Conference Room, WMKO Headquarters, Waimea, HI
Telecon attendees: 877-280-4645 passcode 540030 Videoconference IP:

Directions: Kamuela (Waimea) town map (.html) and Big Island map (.html)

In propria persona (TBC): Adkins, Bouchez, Chin, Clare, Dekany, Flicker, Gavel, Johansson, Max, Moore, Neyman, van Dam, Velur, Wizinowich
In effigie (e.g. on the phone) (TBC): Bauman, Cameron, Ghez, Ireland, Kellner, Le Mignant, Liu, Lu, Marchis, Olsen

Action Items from the meeting: Action items. Status of Action items as of 3/16/07.

Goals (Tentative):

  • Review initial operations architecture
  • Review initial NGAO performance and efficiency budgets
  • Review recent trade studies
  • Discuss needs for 07A on-sky engineering time
  • Review instrumentation working group progress

Agenda (Tentative):

  • 7:45 am Refreshments
  • 8:00 am Management Report (Wizinowich) Project Report #1
    • Review study overall progress, progress against milestones, and summary financial situation
  • 8:30 am Systems Engineering Group Report (Dekany)
    • Review overall progress, interactions with science and instrumentation teams, and other 'big picture' SD phase technical issues.
  • 8:40 am Science Requirements: Contiguous Field of View (Max) Max_ContigFields_v1.ppt * Assemat_FALCON_MNRAS.pdf: Paper on FALCON MOAO System
    • Discuss the requirements for contiguous field of view, as developed for each of the driving science cases. Review alternative techniques and competing capabilities, including spacecraft.
  • 9:10 am Science Operations (Le Mignant) (NGAOmeet070122sciops.ppt)
    • From the WBS Dictionary ( Define the overall architecture, the method and design the interfaces for operating the sub-systems of the NG AO-instrumentation. Here AO-instrument refer to AO, laser, SC, science instrument, etc.
    • Discuss operations team's strategy for structuring the remainder of the SD phase tasks under
  • 9:50 am System Requirements Document (Release 1) (Wizinowich) Requirements
  • 10:05 am Break
  • 10:20 am Initial Performance Budgets (Dekany) Performance Budget Update (.pdf))
    • From the WBS Dictionary (3.1.1): Development of systems level engineering budgets for a variety of astronomical performance metrics, organized around key observing scenarios. The level of detail available to each budget will depend on the state of the art, the resources dedicated to budget generation during the SD phase, and astronomical user experience. All performance budgets should parameterize the performance behavior versus the corresponding sky coverage fraction. (when appropriate, coverage levels of 5, 30, and 90% should be assumed).
    • Presentation material to be prepared by:
  • 12:00 pm Lunch
  • 12:50 pm Trade Study Report: Telescope Wavefront Errors (Neyman) (Neyman.ppt)
    • From the WBS Dictionary: Review new data on the telescope static and dynamic wavefront errors. Determine how and whether NGAO can correct for these errors. Determine the performance benefit of a large LOWFS patrol field to enable use of the brightest possible NGS. Consider whether a separate sensor outside the NGAO FOV would be useful for measuring/correcting the telescope errors. Complete when impact on current Keck LGS AO system understood and impact on NGAO reviewed.
  • 1:30 pm Trade Study Report: LGS Wavefront Sensor: Type and Number of Subapertures (Velur) (HOWFS_type_&_#_of_subaps.ppt)
    • From the WBS DIctionary ( Consider alternative WFS designs (e.g. Shack-Hartmann vs. pyramid) for different laser pulse formats. Evaluate and compare the advantages of e.g. short pulse tracking using radial geometry CCDs and mechanical pulse trackers. Complete when LGS WFS requirements have been documented.
    • From the WBS Dictionary ( Consider the cost/benefit of supporting different format LGS wavefront sensors (e.g. 44 subaps across, vs. 32, vs 24.) Consider the operational scenarios required to meet science requirements in poor atmospheric seeing or cirrus conditions?
  • 2:10 pm Trade Study Report: Low-order Wavefront Sensor: Architecture, Type, and Number (Clare, Flicker) (Kellner_status.ppt) (Clare.ppt)
    • From the WBS Dictionary ( Consider the cost/benefit and technical maturity of MEMS-based correction within the LOWFS, using MOAO control techniques. Include consideration of additional metrology systems required, if any. Compare with cost/benefit of MCAO system to provide tip/tilt star sharpening. Complete when LOWFS requirements and sky coverage estimates have been documented.
    • From the WBS Dictionary ( Perform a cost/benefit analysis for the optimal type, waveband, and number of tip/tilt and tip/tilt/focus low-order WFS. Complete when LOWFS requirements and sky coverage estimates have been documented.
  • 2:50 pm Discussion (led by Dekany): On-sky experiment needs for 07B
    • Discuss progress in the key NGAO risk areas and identify the top priority risk mitigations requiring on-sky Keck LGS engineering time.
    • Assign responsible experiment PI's and set deadline for distribution of experiment plan for review
  • 3:20 pm Break
  • 3:40 pm Instrumentation Working Group Report (Adkins, Moore) (Instrument-Reuse-Questions-012407_2.ppt)
    • Overall status, questions for the science team.
  • 4:10 pm Discussion: Upcoming tasks and milestones (Wizinowich)
    • A review of actions arising from this meeting was made. (During the sys eng report, Dekany described the Team Meeting #5 trade studies and coordination thereof.)
  • 4:45 pm General Discussion (All)
  • 5:30 pm Adjourn

  • Evening NGAO Function - TBD (6:30p)

Topic attachments
I Attachment History Action Size Date Who Comment
PDFpdf Assemat_FALCON_MNRAS.pdf r1 manage 636.6 K 2007-01-22 - 20:33 ClaireMax Paper on FALCON MOAO System
PowerPointppt ClareNGAOmeeting4Jan07.ppt r1 manage 594.0 K 2007-01-20 - 01:49 ChrisNeyman Low order wavefront sensor trade study
PDFpdf Gavel_EncircledEnergyBudget.pdf r3 r2 r1 manage 449.6 K 2007-01-22 - 22:27 DonaldGavel  
PowerPointppt Instrument-Reuse-Questions-012407.ppt r1 manage 184.5 K 2007-01-20 - 00:41 SeanAdkins  
PowerPointppt Instrument-Reuse-Questions-012407_2.ppt r1 manage 157.5 K 2007-01-22 - 22:40 SeanAdkins  
PowerPointppt Max_ContigFields_v1.ppt r1 manage 222.5 K 2007-01-22 - 11:26 ClaireMax Claire Max contiguous fields presentation
Microsoft Word filedoc Meeting_4_Action_Items.doc r1 manage 36.0 K 2007-01-24 - 03:26 PeterWizinowich Meeting 4 action items
Microsoft Word filedoc Meeting_4_Action_Items_Status.doc r3 r2 r1 manage 37.0 K 2007-03-16 - 23:30 PeterWizinowich Status of action items.
PowerPointppt NGAO_HC.ppt r2 r1 manage 1023.0 K 2007-01-22 - 20:17 RalfFlicker high-contrast IPT update
Microsoft Word filedoc NGAO_Requirements_v02.doc r1 manage 680.5 K 2007-01-20 - 03:20 PeterWizinowich NGAO System Requirements Document
PowerPointppt NGAO_TS-LOWFSarch31229.ppt r1 manage 715.5 K 2007-01-22 - 05:43 RalfFlicker LOWFS type TS status
PowerPointppt NGAOmeet070122sciops.ppt r2 r1 manage 505.5 K 2007-01-24 - 18:35 DavidLeMignant  
PowerPointppt NeymanNGAOmeeting4Jan07.ppt r2 r1 manage 760.5 K 2007-01-22 - 02:59 ChrisNeyman NGAO Telescope errors
PDFpdf Performance_Budgets_Update.pdf r1 manage 3638.9 K 2007-01-22 - 06:27 RichardDekany  
PDFpdf Project_Report_1.pdf r1 manage 128.0 K 2007-01-20 - 02:57 PeterWizinowich Project Report 1 (1/19/07)
PDFpdf background_budget.pdf r1 manage 132.8 K 2007-01-22 - 19:31 AntoninBouchez background budget update
PowerPointppt background_budget.ppt r1 manage 184.0 K 2007-01-22 - 19:35 AntoninBouchez background budget update
PowerPointppt velur_NGAO_meeting4.ppt r6 r5 r4 r3 r2 manage 2579.5 K 2007-01-25 - 02:30 ViswaVelur HOWFS_type_and_number_of_subaps_TS

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Topic revision: r39 - 2007-03-16 - PeterWizinowich
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