attending: Eric, Mansi, Gina, Dan R, Brad, Suvi, Jason, Eran, Rich Wide-ranging discussion of filter and exchanger requirements. Dan (ZTF optical engineer): quantification of deviations from strict top-hat. Band edges are not cost drivers; transmission, out-of-band rejection, and transitions between are cost drivers. Group consensus: maintain SDSS g' and Mould R bandpasses as a baseline. Eric to check if there are significant gains to be made in sky background reduction by any bandpass tuning. For R-band, sky will help determine trade between maintaining PTF->ZTF baseline (valuable for variable stars) vs potentially better calibration to SDSS/PS etc. No strong opinions expresses about requirements on transmission, ripple, out of band rejection, etc--Eric to follow up with Ia folks not on the call. ZTF not budgeted to compete with precision cosmology experiments, but we'll try to maximize the value. Filter exchanger: Consecutive g/r exposures of a field would be better served by a fixed filter design (cheaper/easier/faster). Instead, we ask how we would maximally use an exchanger. General consensus that exchanges every 30 minutes (=> 20 per night) is probably a good max value. Implies exchange times of <= 90 seconds to avoid >5% losses in observing (although with smart scheduling we may be able to hide the exchange in a slew). Next meeting: Dec. 4: follow-up of outstanding filter/exchanger items; discussion of straw man cadences and how to evaluate them